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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Amax on a 3000: need MacROM 2.0
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References: <1991May9.004724.21131@netcom.COM> <1991May9.154358.22428@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991May10.012634.28880@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 May 1991 01:57:50 GMT

In article <1991May10.012634.28880@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> podop03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg) writes:
>In article <1991May9.154358.22428@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>,
>es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>|>	Not that many, but there are lots of Apple employees and
>|>I have no doubt Apple lawyers. What you are asking for is
>|>blatantly illegal. If you do it, fine. But posting here asking
>|>for an illegal program is just REALLY arrogant.
>
>No, a program designed to copy the Mac roms off the AMAX cartridge is
>NOT illegal.  It is PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE.  People who want faster
>startup times on AMAX can get MACROM so they don't have to wait for the
>data to load off the cartridge.  The only thing illegal is the ACT of
>using the program to make unauthorized copy of the MAC roms (that is, if
>you copy ROMS that you don't already own).  According to your logic,
>disk copying utilities and hard disk backup utilities are illegal in
>themselves even for making backups of your own licensed software that
>you had bought.
>
	I misunderstood the poster. I thought he was asking for
the pirate version of AMax, i.e. the version with the ROM and
AMax code merged. I thought that because he said that he didn't
want to hear about legalities. Sorry, my mistake.
	I don't know what the legalities are. A chip and a disk
are different things. I don't know the law myself. Don't forget
that when you buy a program the license always says you can make
a copy for your own personal backup uses. I don't know if they
say that because they want to or because they can't deny you the
right anyway.

	The main question about AMax legality is actually the use
of the System Software itself. The license agreement says
explicitly that the OS may not be run on an emulator. Then there
are questions about whether shrink-wrap licenses are legal.

	-- Ethan

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