Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka!ghoti!cjeff From: cjeff@ghoti.lcs.mit.edu (Carl J.M. Alexander) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: 32 bit addressing Keywords: VM, 32bit, 7.0 Message-ID: <1991May13.144245.4435@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Date: 13 May 91 14:42:45 GMT References: <1991May11.190833.18802@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> <1991May11.212231.20977@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1991May12.141345.15983@umbc3.umbc.edu> Sender: news@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu Organization: BCS*Mac Lines: 44 cs421317@umbc5.umbc.edu (Gary Goldberg) asks a few questions about Apple and 32-bit ROMs.... >>this 'feature' was advertised as a selling point when I bought my machine<< This is really the crux of the matter. It seems that some in Apple management want to take the attitude that those of us who are asking for 32-bit clean ROM upgrades are just a bunch of cry-babies. And if Apple had not stated in its product literature that these Macs would ultimately be able to address up to 128 Mb of RAM, they would be right. But the fact of the matter is that Apple did make that statement -- repeatedly. And that makes us not cry-babies but potential plaintiffs in a class-action suit. Of course Apple is well aware of the fact that, merits aside, they would probably not lose such a suit. But has it occurred to Apple's management that offering ROM upgrades could not only help them avoid a suit; it could also make them a significant profit and, if they were reasonably clever about it, they could even make it into a PR coup? >>doesn't this render moot the point about returning the old ROMs.... This point was moot from day one. I don't know a single owner of a 'dirty-ROMed' '030-based Mac who wouldn't gladly let Apple have their old ROMs back. If I owned a cx, I would be perfectly content if, as part of the installation procedure, the Apple certified tech destroyed the old ROMs that are soldered on (say, by cutting them in half with wire-cutters). Connectix has announced a software solution for this problem for $179. Nobody yet knows how robust that solution will prove to be, but it does provide a pricing benchmark. Most of us would gladly pay that amount, plus labor for a required dealer installation, to get a hardware solution known to be bug-free. Apple would make *at least* as much profit this way as they would from those few people who might be forced to buy new Macs otherwise, and it would help their customer-relations situation as well. >>Should they be required to support all machines they've ever produced? >>I think that wouldn't be fair and bad business practice to boot.... The fact of the matter is that Apple *does* support every machine they've ever produced, and it is one of the few areas in which their business practice is consistently *good*. If your II+ croaks, you can get parts: support means keeping equipment working, not keeping it current. What we are asking for is support in a sense, I suppose: we are asking that Apple make our Macs work in the manner Apple originally told us they would work. --Carl Alexander News Editor, The Active Window cjeff@ghoti.lcs.mit.edu