Xref: utzoo comp.os.msdos.misc:2064 comp.windows.ms:12560 comp.os.os2.misc:1347 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!bywater!arnor!yktvmv!larrys From: larrys@watson.ibm.com (Larry Salomon, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.os.os2.misc Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 is here! READ THIS, you'll be impressed Message-ID: <1991May10.175331.11245@watson.ibm.com> Date: 10 May 91 17:42:13 GMT References: <1991May8.210437.24333@qualcomm.com> Sender: larrys@yktvmv Reply-To: larrys@yktvmv Organization: IBM Research Lines: 53 News-Software: NewsKit 1.2 - LaMail Nntp-Posting-Host: ibmman In <1991May8.210437.24333@qualcomm.com>, rdippold@lajolla.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes: > >In article <1991May6.170411.9423@watson.ibm.com> larrys@yktvmv writes: >>Okay, so Mr. G.I. Luvwindows says, "But no one is going to develop >>strictly for OS/2." My reply is that if the internal IBM response is any >>indication, watch out Bill Gates... > >If my previous experiences with IBM software is any indication, I want nothing >of applications software written by them (to name just one, I still have night- >mares about DisplayWrite), if you're talking here about things that might >become available to the users. If you're not, I still don't think that >internal OS/2 applications developed by a company where OS/2 is gospel is much >of an indicator. DisplayWrite is a gross application, I'll agree. But it is NOT indicative of other OS/2 applications. Internally, OS/2 is not gospel, even though it appears that way. More people use AIX and DOS than OS/2. So, my point is still valid. There ARE applications/toolkit/etc. being developed internally, showing that people are starting to recognize it as a good environment for development work. >On the other hand, I seriously want to try OS/2 2.0 (I almost got a beta >version when you had it available on your BBS, before the damned lawyers >messed things up again), which looks like it's finally what we got promised >way back in 86/87 (?). If it's decent, the applications will start appearing, >inexorably. I just don't think that internal use of OS/2 at IBM provides any >usable parallel for the real world. Legal issues are a pain, aren't they? I don't like it any more than you do, and I have talked to many other IBM'ers who don't like it either. We are pushing and pushing to get it back on the BBS, but until those issues are addressed, there's nothing we can do. Cheers, Larry Salomon, Jr. (aka 'Q') LARRYS@YKTVMV.BITNET OS/2 Applications and Tools larrys@ibmman.watson.ibm.com IBM T.J. Watson Research Center larrys@eng.clemson.edu Yorktown Heights, NY Disclaimer: The statements and/or opinions stated above are strictly my own and do not reflect the views of my employer. Additionally, I have a reputation for being obnoxious, so don't take any personal attacks too seriously. ------------------------- Note headers follow -------------------------- From larrys@yktvmv.watson.ibm.com Fri May 10 13:53:31 1991 Received: from sequoia.watson.ibm.com by ibmman.watson.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL 1.2.1/) id AB0028; Fri, 10 May 91 13:53:31 -0700 Received: by SEQUOIA.watson.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL 1.1.4/) id AA0039; Fri, 10 May 91 13:53:23 -0700 Message-Id: <9105102053.AA0039@SEQUOIA.watson.ibm.com>