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From: drift@qut.edu.au (Glenn Wallace)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Re: Communication between applications
Message-ID: <1991May10.200736.28739@qut.edu.au>
Date: 11 May 91 01:07:35 GMT
References: <72160@microsoft.UUCP> <504@nwnexus.WA.COM>
Organization: Queensland University of Technology
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In article <504@nwnexus.WA.COM>, keithp@nwnexus.WA.COM (Keith Pleas) writes:
>>What are you talking about?  Read in the trade rags about Microsoft's Open
>>Tools strategy.  Read about the recent Open Tools summit.  Microsoft is
>>commited to provide the information and support needed to let third-party
>>vendors make great Windows development tools.  
> 
> What are YOU talking about?  I've got about 100 messages in a thread I'm
> following on CompuServe about "Undocumented Windows" and another 20 or so
> in one about "SDK Errata".  The WINDOWS.H file is copyrighted, so people
> writing the development tools can't include this info.  The WINDEBUG.DLL

As part of MS's Open Tools strategy (which was preached to me today)
they will license WINDOWS.H (as they did to Borland) .... it just costs
lotsa $MONEY$.

> is worse than worthless; it totally hoses the display at anything other
> than plain VGA.  FWIW, the WINDEBUG.DLL is more than a year old, and to
> my knowledge has never been fixed; heck, MS doesn't even acknowledge that

I think they'd _like_ to fix it, but have more important things on
their plate. Doesn't help the Tool developer, eh?

> it's a problem!  The only OLE application I've seen is a partially
> upgraded CARDFILE application, but it's supposed to be very buggy.  Important

There are a whole slew of OLE versions of the accessories avail on
OnLine. Got em but ain't tried em. Too busy coding.

> technical information that should be (IMHO) in the SDK is instead bundled
> into the DDK.  The "Windows Developer's Notes" are another $25.  The SDK

Too true (DDK info). SDK Notes: they didn't have that stuff ready in time
for the 3.0 SDK release. MS also seem very reticent to update the SDK
with ANYTHING, prefering to wait for 3.1 SDK. Grr.

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