Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!bu.edu!polygen!bill From: bill@polygen.uucp (Bill Poitras) Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: an example of sticky windows in a .Xdefaults file for olvwm Message-ID: <1084@redford.UUCP> Date: 10 May 91 20:48:20 GMT References: <1991May3.000802.29165@wlbr.imsd.contel.com> <1610@sunc.osc.edu> Reply-To: bill@redford.UUCP (Bill Poitras(X258)) Organization: Polygen Corporation, Waltham, MA Lines: 32 In article <1610@sunc.osc.edu> bpowell@osc.edu (Brian Powell) writes: >> >> Now, my question to yall is this: how can you get the root menu >> sticky? >> >> I have used xprop and found that the name is "Root Menu" but when > >Also, I can't get mailtool to be sticky. Xprop shows its name for me to be: > "Mail Tool - /usr/spool/mail/bpowell" > >I can find no form of the above string that will satisfy olvwm's sticky >resource... The reason why both of you are having problems is very simple. Olvwm looks at the WM_CLASS property of a window to match it with its list. What both of you are looking at is the WM_NAME property. In general, anyone trying to make Openlook applications sticky in the .Xdefaults file will fail. Openwindows applications are very lax about setting properties. In addition to not setting WM_CLASS, it doen't set WM_COMMAND. That means that xlsclients wont show an Openwindows application. And while I'm at it I also will mention another gripe about Openwindows. The X11/News server's choice of font properties SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! At most I have seen one font property, such as X_HEIGHT. Wow, what an amazing choice (note the sarcasm) From an X standpoint I am moderately disappointed in the Openwindows applications. On the other hand, I do find the programs usefull and functional. So I do like Openwindows somewhat. +-----------------+---------------------------+-----------------------------+ | Bill Poitras | Polygen Corporation | {princeton mit-eddie | | (bill) | Waltham, MA USA | bu sunne}!polygen!bill | | | FAX (617)890-8694 | bill@polygen.com | +-----------------+---------------------------+-----------------------------+