Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!pikes!mercury.cair.du.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!uunet!timbuk!cs.umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!samsung!olivea!decwrl!csus.edu!ucdavis!csusac!unify!openlook!openlook-request From: openlook-request@openlook Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: Help with SunSO OpenWindows 2.0 window manager and Saber C Message-ID: Date: 12 May 91 10:40:04 GMT Lines: 9 I had a similar problem with dbxtool, so I have the following : xterm -iconic -e dbxtool which dbxtool a ptty to play with, and only slightly clutters my screen. The problem seems to be that saber and dbx do tty specific ioctls on stdin and give up if that fails. Tim.