Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!sgi!mips!daver!wombat!george From: george@wombat.UUCP (George Scolaro) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: When is the battery fully charged? Message-ID: <5582@wombat.UUCP> Date: 12 May 91 21:17:59 GMT References: <1991May9.041604.24787@crash.cts.com> <1079@eplunix.UUCP> <1991May10.005414.11195@tvnews.tv.tek.com> Organization: Assn. for the prevention of Polar Bears and Kangaroos Lines: 56 In article <1991May10.005414.11195@tvnews.tv.tek.com> bill@thd.tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden) writes: >In article <1079@eplunix.UUCP> raoul@eplunix.UUCP (Nico Garcia) writes: >->Recharging them depends on the battery type. For lead-acids, a >->constant-voltage constant-current circuit is best. Basically, run an LM317 >->as a current source (no more than 1/10 the battery capacity), and use a >->voltage supply no higher than your maximum voltage to supply voltage to that >->(another LM317 works just fine). > >It seems like it would work better to have the voltage regulator after >the current regulator. That way you wouldn't have to concern yourself >with the voltage drop across the current regulator. National Semi's 1989 General Purpose Linear Devices databook has even a nicer scheme using just one lm317 (see page 1-64): |----------------| 9v-60v | | optional diode here ----o-----| Vin 317 Vout |----o---------------- | | Adj | | | | |----------------| | _____ | | / --- + | + | \ 240 ohms | ----- 1000uF | / | 6 volt ----- |------------o | | | | _____ | | / --- | | \ 1.1kohm | | C \ B / | | \|________o________________ | /| | | E < 2N2222 / | | \ 1 ohm | | / ----o--------------o------------o The 1 ohm resistor sets the current limit, the 1.1kohm resistor sets the output voltage. Adjust both for you application. If the circuit is permanently connected to your battery, put a diode in series with the battery so that it wont discharge if the charger is off. I have built this up into a Dolphin style torch with a 6 volt 4 amp/hr lead/acid and it works great, with a axial connector for a cable to a car cigarette lighter. Note that for (some) lead/acid you can charge higher than 1/10C, the battery manufacturer that I used recommends max charge of 0.8 amp (4 amp/hr). In addition for cyclic charge the charge voltage should be 7.20 - 7.35V, and at 40mA it should be disconnected or lowered to the float charge voltage, which is 6.75 - 6.90V. i.e. get the specs from the battery manufacturer that your are purchasing from, don't try to second guess them, they do print specs for a good reason and contrary to popular belief you can ask them to send you a copy. The wonders of printed material :-) best regards, -- George Scolaro george@wombat.bungi.com [37 20 51 N / 122 03 07 W]