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From: sbcs!dnettles@eeserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (David E Nettles)
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Subject: Re: opportunities
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In article <1991May1.175906.5106@isc.rit.edu> pad6516@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
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>	Before I make any of the comments that I am about to make just
>let me say Please do not flame the shit out of me. These are just thoughts
>that I am looking for answers to. I do not want an attack, Ideas!
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>	GENERALLY SPEAKING The way I see society is that it is based 
>on the discoveries, inventions, and ideas of the male species. The 
>freedom that we as Americans have is basically the result of the men.
>With that, much of the death and War is because of the male species.
>I think the reason for such male domination is that men have not let
>women even participate in these areas. What would society be like if men 
>had let women be equals from day one? I think the added benefit are 
>incomprehendable. Would a woman invented the plane say 20 years before
>the first man did? Very possible! 
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	...Seems quite reasonable...

>	I think male domination is the result of the old physical labor
>based society. It started out like that and only in the last, lets say, 
>50 years has society began to change to a more intellectual based society.
>That is people make a living based on intellect rather than physical 
>strength. And everyone knows that males are stronger physically than 
>females. But the way society is today anyone can do anything they want 
>almost enitirely base on brain power. (there are still
>exceptions-chauvinists(sp)) But I see women having more opportunities than 
>ever. 
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	YES!!! Very true!!!!  Severly physically handicapped
	persons can even compete well in today's society!
	Muscles and strength are virtual non-issues.

>	Is anyone familiar with Romantic and Classic ways of thinking?
>Well females tend to think romantically and males classically. A classic
>way of thinking is how a male looks at the beauty of a car. The engine and 
>its parts, what makes it go fast, its pistons, and spark plugs, and fuel
>injection. While a female looks at the color and the interior and whether
>it matches. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with that,
>so don't get pissed!

	But this "different" way of looking at things is
	much more the result of social presure put upon
	us as children AND as adults.

	For instance, while growing up girls could describe
	a flower using the word "pretty" and boys had
	to use other words (or none at all) else be labelled
	a sissy.

	Oh... I'm not pissed... (trust me, if I have sons
	and daughters they will know how to appreciate it 
	all.  It's more fun that way!)

> I think we all could benefit if males and females could
>have a mix of both. But of course this way of thinking is a result of 
>upbringing from childhood, because I am sure we all know women who are into 
>the workings of cars and males that are interior decorators. I am speaking
>as a wholeAnd vice versa. Women are generally not into that. Well I suspect
>that I will get killed for my ideas on the subject but I would like to 
>know what other people think. Please do not tell me I am wrong because 

	Yeah, but it is more society than biology.

>everyonge is entitled to there opinion and I would like to hear other
>peoples opinions! In fact to all you feminists out there I think the 
>socitey could benefit greatly if men would let women get more involved
>in it. It is changing but it takes time!
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	VERY TRUE!!!  It's more fun knowing people when you
	knoq the field is even and fair... knowwhatImean?

>	With this in mind its pretty logical as to why men invent cars that
>go faster or space shuttles that don't blow up anymore, that is what they 
>are into. It also shows the reason why music is generally male dominate


	--- David Nettles


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