Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jclark@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (John Clark) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Eden and Relations between the Sexes Message-ID: Date: 10 May 91 07:24:31 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 19 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article grossg@patriot.rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross) writes: +by eating the "forbidden fruit." The "forbidden fruit" was not sex; +otherwise, how could Adam and Eve have been obedient to the command to +be fruitful and to multiply if sex was sinful. The 'sin' could have been enjoying the processing of getting to the multiplication tables. It seems that Augustine cemented the concept of "original sin" and sexual congress is thereby "sin", for if sex is not sinful how could the result of sex, procreation, become inately sinful. There has in the past been debates as whether one(probably the man) should 'enjoy' the act or perform a prefunctatory duty, to be done with all due hast. Until recently, one might surmise, the woman was to dutifully submit but not particularly enjoy the proceedings. -- John Clark jclark@ucsd.edu