Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Hell Message-ID: Date: 10 May 91 07:20:37 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Lines: 47 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article shallenb@news.colorado.edu (Nualle) writes: > As far as I can tell, when rational adult humans refer to hell, they >mean the burning, sulphurous ocean which sits as a threat to sinners, or >infidels which most of us were taught of as children. > > I find that idea absurd. I also find that I'm beginning to differ with the popular notion of what Hell is (i.e. fire, brimstone, etc.) And our moderator writes: >[There's a variety of concepts of hell. Issues that have come up >here in the past are: ... > - hell as lasting forever vs. being annihilation >--clh] So, I've looked through the Bible a bit on this, and found this: Matthew 10:28 "And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Revelation 20:10,14 "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they shall be tormented day and night forever and ever" "And death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." Anyway, looking at this has brought me to the conclusion that perhaps hell is more of an incinerator and than an eternal torture chamber. But, this is basically hinges upon the real meanings of the words 'destroy' in Matt 10:28 and 'second death' in Rev. 20:14. Does anybody want to volunteer to look these verses up and explain what the actual Greek says? Thanks, Logan -- // # "He said that He had your number; you cut the telephone line. \X/ # You said you needed a reason; He said 'there ain't much time.' Logan # You kept trying to avoid it; He kept knocking on the door. Shaw # In a flash it was over; you were a prisoner of war." -Rez Band