Newsgroups: trial.soc.culture.italian Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!news.cs.indiana.edu!sahayman@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu From: Steve Hayman Subject: Re: Trial group status Message-ID: <1991May9.041346.208@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: daemon@news.cs.indiana.edu Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Wed, 8 May 91 23:13:11 -0500 Lines: 33 I have to admit a cock-up, I have lost the email address and name of the trial judge. That was me, I'm one of the half-dozen trial "judges", and the trial.soc.culture.italian proposal is the one that I am supposedly overseeing. I have no doubt that trial.s.c.i would make a fine soc.culture.italian group - BUT - it's apparent that the trial procedure is not working. As others have noticed, trial groups never show up in the arbitron reports, and, to my knowledge, no trial group has ever been promoted to a "real" group since the trial concept began. I think the other trial groups have generally been left alone since their creation. trial.rec.metalworking has been around for at least a year, and as far as I know nobody has done anything about either promoting it to a full-fledged rec group, or deleting it due to lack of interest. I don't know what to suggest, but, obviously, the trial idea just isn't working out as originally designed. Perhaps the best thing is to leave trial.soc.culture.italian around while someone conducts a vote on a regular soc.culture.italian; I have no doubt that such a vote would pass easily. Steve -- Steve Hayman Workstation Manager Computer Science Department Indiana U. sahayman@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (812) 855-6984