Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu!ceres.physics.uiowa.edu!news.iastate.edu!vancleef From: vancleef@iastate.edu (Van Cleef Henry H) Newsgroups: trial.soc.culture.italian Subject: Re: Call for discussion : soc.culture.italian Message-ID: <1991May11.195543.6026@news.iastate.edu> Date: 11 May 91 19:55:43 GMT References: <1991May10.234209.29308@cs.ucla.edu> <1991May11.191809.5062@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Lines: 49 In article <1991May11.191809.5062@news.iastate.edu> vancleef@iastate.edu (Van Cleef Henry H) writes: >In article <1991May10.234209.29308@cs.ucla.edu> marino@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Fabio Marino) writes: >> >I am hereby issuing a call for discussion on the creation of the >newsgroup soc.culture.italian. >This shall be unmoderated and its charter will be the discussion of >any aspect of the italian culture, ranging anywhere from politics to >entertainment. >I shall point out that this group has been running under the trial >hierarchy for almost five months. >Unfortunately, it seems from the reports I have received from other >USENET users/system administrators that the trial hierarchy is NOT >received on a majority of sites, therefore it is my opinion that the >TRIAL method is not able to fulfill its aim. >The traffic on trial.soc.culture.italian has been pretty intense (an >average of 4-5 postings every day, even on something like 50 sites) >even though italian universities have just recently gained access to >USENET thanks to the collaboration of RPI. >In consideration of the aforementioned facts, I would like to make the >discussion period as short as possible. >I welcome any suggestions, requests for clarifications or >modifications to any aspect of the newsgroup's charter. > I have been a reader of this group for the past two or three weeks. before that I was unaware of its existence, and it was only a chance E-mail comment from someone doing Italian studies that I found out about it. Our newsgroup administrator went to some lengths to find a feed, to get it turned on, and we are fortunate that we could find ANY feed for this newsgroup AT ALL. Note that I am posting from a large university (32,000 people on this campus) that carries a very large number of newsgroups. My own work in Italian studies (through the Union Inst.) makes this group very desirable to me. Soc.culture.europe does not fill the bill. The trial group presently carries a solid, though relatively small, core of traffic, no doubt reflecting its narrow distribution base. The value of soc.culture.(european-countries) is already tested and proven, and Italy is a major European country, socially, politically, economically, and historically. There is plenty of justification for creating such a group without going through the vote process. I support the call for discussion and believe that this should be moved into the voting process as quickly as possible. "VERDI = Vittore Emanuele re d'Italia" -- Hank van Cleef vancleef@iastate.edu Iowa State University, Ames. Ia. tmn!vancleef The Union Institute, Cincinnati, Oh.