Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!mintaka!bloom-beacon!bu.edu!dartvax!eleazar.dartmouth.edu!stevel From: stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: New Moto chips (was Will NeXT survive?) Message-ID: <1991May14.135951.5132@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Date: 14 May 91 13:59:51 GMT References: <+=+A+N6@xds13.ferranti.com> <3397@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> <14720@encore.Encore.COM> Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 20 In article <14720@encore.Encore.COM> jcallen@encore.Com (Jerry Callen) writes: >(some complaints about chips for toasters) > >What's the price of the cheapest Moto chip to include an MMU (68030)? You know, the ec030 is cheaper than the 030 for two reasons; they took out the mmu, and they put it in a plastic pin-grid array (rather than ceramic). You may recall that the NSC 32532 was "cheapened" in the same manner to make the 32gx32(!?). Looking at the logic board for a Macintosh SE/30, I noticed that the 030 on the board is in a PLASTIC pin-grid array package. I called Wyle Labs, and was told that no, Motorola doesn't offer the 030 in a plastic pin-grid array package. So, perhaps they only make it for Apple. I wonder if they will offer it generally. I wonder how much (little!) Apple pays for 030's. -- steve.ligett@dartmouth.edu or ...!dartvax!steve.ligett