Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: Re: Clipper 5.01 bugs Message-ID: <1991May16.135821.5096@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 16 May 91 13:58:21 GMT References: <1991May15.210031.23270@pegasus.com> <1991May7.235644.28744@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> <1991May14.170431.1509@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 39 In article <1991May15.210031.23270@pegasus.com> tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan) writes: >In article <1991May14.170431.1509@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan) writes: >> >>I suspect that we're about to see a large-scale exodus of former Clipper >>users to other products. Nantucket blew it once with the first release >>of 5.0, and now it appears that they have blown it again. >> >>I hear Fox is coming out with a new compiler for FoxPro... > >K., > >I suspect that you don't know what you're talking about. > >Send me one of your applications, I'll push all the wrong buttons and post >a message about how terrible it is. Ah, so according to you, Clipper is perfectly bug free and the only errors are the result of users "pushing the wrong buttons"? It seems clear that you are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. The trade press took Nantucket to task for their initial release of 5.0. Their users took them to task. They felt it necessary to provide a BUG FIX release, 5.01. Clearly, 5.00 was too buggy for a "real" release. In my book, using your customers as your quality control department is BLOWING IT. 5.0 needed much more testing, but clearly Nantucket felt great pressure to release it because it was already MANY months late, so they shipped it before it was truly ready. As a result, users suffered. That is what I call BLOWING IT. As for 5.01 fixing all the bugs of 5.0 as you seem to believe, care to explain how a program, written from scratch in Clipper 5.0 and working perfectly, SUDDENLY BREAKS when compiled under 5.01? No external 3rd party libraries were used, it was all "native Clipper" code, and not one line of code was changed, merely the compiler version. Feel free to worship Nantucket as the best, most bug-free software development environment in the universe. Those of us with a grip on reality will probably be moving along to something better as soon as possible.