Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!csn!boulder!daemon From: BILLW@mathom.cisco.com (WilliamChops Westfield) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco Subject: Re: Terminal server hangs Message-ID: <35151@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 17 May 91 00:54:53 GMT Sender: daemon@boulder.Colorado.EDU Lines: 29 We have seen this type of behavior occasionally on other TCP/IP implementations. We have never completely resolved the problem however, the best guess is that it is related to the way a particular TCP/IP implementation handles calculation of expected transmission delays and how agressive it is in performing retries when a response is not received in the expected amount of time. We have found 3COM telnet terminal server boxes to be relatively agressive in their retransmissions and we don't normally experience this phenomenon when telneting to their boxes. However, we have seen these types of delays occasionally when telneting to some host based telnet implementations. Hmmph. The cisco terminal server's TCP uses you basic Karn/Jacobson "network-friendly" exponential backoff algorithm, but this should not result in significant delays unless something else is causing the packets to be lost... It is a very hard problem to track down. It's very frustrating - all the tools are there - the cisco practically gives you a sniffer in every box, but to debug problems with durations of <2 minutes, you pretty much have to be sitting at the console waiting for it to fail. Most people have better ways to spend their time. BillW -------