Xref: utzoo comp.dsp:1659 sci.electronics:20180 Newsgroups: comp.dsp,sci.electronics Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!bnrgate!bmerh2!news From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui) Subject: Re: 180 deg phase shift Message-ID: <1991May15.031706.15559@bmerh2.bnr.ca> Sender: news@bmerh2.bnr.ca (Usenet News Admin) Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario Canada References: <1991May8.222501.19572@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> <1991May10.003817.5593@milton.u.washington.edu> <625@fudd.dataco.UUCP> Date: Wed, 15 May 91 03:17:06 GMT In article <625@fudd.dataco.UUCP> mcphail@taarna.UUCP (Alex McPhail,DC ) writes: > . . . . > /| /| /| /| > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | >/ |/ |/ |/ | Normal sawtooth wave > > . . . . > /| /| /| /| > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | > / | / | / | / | > / |/ |/ |/ | Shifted sawtooth wave > >\ |\ |\ |\ | > \ | \ | \ | \ | > \ | \ | \ | \ | > \ | \ | \ | \ | > \ | \ | \ | \ | > \| \| \| \| > ` ` ` ` Inverted sawtooth wave >============================================================================ >________ >|\ / Alex McPhail >| \ / >| \ / mail to mcphail@dataco >|---X (uunet!mitel!melair!dataco!mcphail) Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant (!). Now for my comments, IMHO: inverting shifts all frequency components by pi degrees. That means, taken time-wise, high frequencies are shifted less in time than low frequencies. That's how you get the inverted sawtooth above. Imagine how the fundamental would look in the original wave. Invert it. Lo and behold, it does fit the inverted sawtooth!!! But the original question was to shift the phase of a signal by 180 degrees, which implicitly means to delay the signal by pi degrees as referred to its fundamental frequency. Michael MY Hui Ottawa Canada myhui@bnr.ca