Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!udel!haven.umd.edu!socrates.umd.edu!socrates!rockwell From: rockwell@socrates.umd.edu (Raul Rockwell) Newsgroups: comp.lang.apl Subject: Re: Do I really need a loop? Message-ID: Date: 17 May 91 12:56:20 GMT References: <3970004@hpwrce.HP.COM> <15160018@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> <1991May15.134305.10894@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM> <1991May17.031707.27992@cshl.org> Sender: rockwell@socrates.umd.edu (Raul Rockwell) Organization: Traveller Lines: 24 In-Reply-To: monardo@cshl.org's message of 17 May 91 03: 17:07 GMT Pat Monardo: amen. and the absurdity of the previous posts should make them reconsider whether the APL they speak has any value at all. ahem. Much as I like J, I must point out that APL (and even that FORTRAN or C language :-) does have some value. Specifically, APL runs on my machine, and the machine we use at work. Also, APL runs quite fast (at least the APL we use). I expect that J will *eventually* run APL into the dirt, speedwise, because J seems to be a simpler language, at heart. (And because there is some pretty good talent interested in making J available.) However as things presently stand APL has quite a bit of value that J lacks. (And even when J stablizes and runs fast, there will be people sticking with APL because that's what their applications run in -- and that's nothing compared to people sticking to COBOL for the same reasons). In the words of the famous philosopher: Lighten up, eh? People were having fun. Raul Rockwell