Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!gatech!prism!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!uflorida!webb.psych.ufl.edu!turner From: turner@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner) Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: MS Windows 3.0 version of lisp? Message-ID: <28523@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> Date: 14 May 91 17:14:39 GMT References: <1991May10.110428.28723@src.dec.com> Sender: news@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU Reply-To: turner@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Carl Turner) Organization: University of Florida Psychology Department Lines: 54 Thanks to all who responded to my request for information about Gold Hill Golden Common LISP. Here is a brief summary of some of the comments received... o It's full (CLtL 1) Common Lisp and supports DDE (among other Windows 3.0 stuff). Gold Hill, Inc 26 Landsdowne St Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 621-3300 o There's a review comparing the Gold Hill version of Common LISP with Macintosh LISP (old Allegro updated by Apple). It's in the PC-WEEK April 1, 1991. Bottom line: the Mac version is superior, for a variety of reasons. GCLISP doesn't seem to be well integrated with Windows 3.0 and the memory needed to run the package is excessive. But the review said a number of positive things, too, so read it and decide for yourself. o Consider Software Engineer from Raindrop Software Corporation. The package is a Lisp based development environment for Windows 3.0. I don't know how close the implementation is to Common Lisp, but it looks like DDE is very easy to implement. Uses about 250k of disk space, 286 or better with 2 megs ram,... No stand-alone exe with current release, but planned for next release (3Q91). Can use up to 16 Meg of memory, generates 286 specific code, and (from the brochure and a phone call) appears to be a well thought out product. For more information call Raindrop at 214/234-2611, fax-214/234-2674, or write Raindrop Software Corporation 845 Arapaho Rd., Suite 105 Richardson, TX 75081 [The correspondent included the following:] Disclaimer: I haven't actually used the product and am not connected with RSC in any way.... o Personally, I used and enjoyed the student version of GCLISP, and taught myself LISP using it and two books, _Artificial Intelligence_ by Winston, and _LISP_ by Winston and Horn. So, I was predisposed to view the full GCLISP favorably. I'm not put off so much by the unfavorable reviews as I am by the price: $1,995 (Mac Allegro CL is $495). -- vxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvx v Carl Turner Psychology Department x v turner@webb.psych.ufl.edu University of Florida, Gainesville FL 32611 x vxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvxvx