Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!DMAFHT1.BITNET!X903 From: X903@DMAFHT1.BITNET (Marc Wachowitz) Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Re: Oberon compiler and references Message-ID: Date: 17 May 91 09:40:31 GMT References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Modula2 List Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 On Thu, 16 May 91 12:54:48 GMT Robert Marti said: > >In article <9105160454.AA24029@canne.cs.umu.se> Modula2 List > writes: >>Do yourself a favor and don't use Oberon or any other ftp'able, >>buggy, beta-class product. > >This is the second condescending followup of this style. >What the heck do you know about the reliability of the ETH >implementation of MacOberon in particular -- or of any other >ftp'able software, for that matter?! (For example, I have been >using the ftp'able MIT C-Scheme implementation for my introduction >to knowledge based systems, and with one exception we have never >had any problems with it.) > If my memory doesn't fool me, the person who asked about the pd Oberon wanted it to run on MS-DOS, and that's what the above statement probably, and my recent posting definitely, refers to. The particular compiler for MS-DOS (called Oberon-M) doesn't come from ETH Zurich (their systems really seem to be fine products). Oberon-M really is nearly useless, and a warning to those wanting to use it for serious work (I do consider education serious) is completely appropriate. You are of course right that MIT-Scheme and many other FTPable software are great, and indeed very stable. >So, please, do _us_ a favor and don't broadcast your condescending >advice to the net at large. What's wrong with answering to a question posted to the most- appropriate discussion list? (Yes, this is about Modula-2; but since Oberon is M2's successor and there is - as far as I know - yet no INFO-OBERON around, I still consider it appropriate). Marc Wachowitz X903@DMAFHT1.BITNET