Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!aero-c!gumby.dsd.trw.com!deneva!news From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark R. Thomsen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c Subject: Re: Stepstone have classes/objects for NeXTstep? Message-ID: <28348395.3358@deneva.sdd.trw.com> Date: 18 May 91 01:29:56 GMT References: <35220@athertn.Atherton.COM> Sender: news@deneva.sdd.trw.com Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 31 David Williams writes In article <282B0654.364F@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark R. Thomsen) writes: >No. Stepstone does not sell their IC Packages on NeXT. Gee thats unfortunate, considering NeXT is the only hardware platform that has Objective C as the centerpiece of their whole product. What would be nice is if Stepstone would take the NeXT development that much further and layer a visual design/programming version of Objective C. I mean why stop at laying out the GUI via direct manipulation? Why not do the same for the underlying messages & methods as well? Yes, well Stepstone thinks this is unfortunate too. Objective-C is a means to their ends since they want to make hay by building and selling reusable components. A 'Software IC CAD' system makes some real sense as a goal for them. I don't know if they are doing anything with this but the guys I spoke with are smart enough that I would hazard they have thought a lot about this. It smacks of visual programming (not a high reputation field) but then graphical CAD to design a circuit one gate at a time would have had a bad reputation if they were already at the 1 micron densities in silicon land. Oh, and NeXT has not really bought Objective-C hook, line, and sinker. It is a means to their ends and, while it is heavily used, their new development environment supports C++ as well. They are not going to fight the public tides when that wastes energy relative to their goals. They are not out to sell Objective-C platforms; just platforms. Mark R. Thomsen