Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!emory!ox.com!ox.com!emv From: emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: even better chat2.pl, and a useful (but simple) ftp client! Message-ID: Date: 16 May 91 07:06:43 GMT References: <1991Apr30.203058.23304@iwarp.intel.com> <132095@uunet.UU.NET> <1991May8.213911.15714@NCoast.ORG> <1991May15.235542.3938@uunet.uu.net> Sender: usenet@ox.com (Usenet News Administrator) Organization: OTA Limited Partnership, Ann Arbor MI. Lines: 59 In-Reply-To: rbj@uunet.uu.net's message of 15 May 91 23:55:42 GMT In article <1991May15.235542.3938@uunet.uu.net> rbj@uunet.uu.net (Root Boy Jim) writes: >I had a feeling someone would say that. Read the code (and the rest of his >message) --- it sends an ls -lR listing of all the GNU stuff, not the actual >GNU archives. Even so, consider the size of our ls-lR.Z: 376 -rw-r--r-- 1 rick 371745 May 15 03:39 /usr/spool/ftp/ls-lR.Z What fraction of this is -rw-r--r-- 1 16 21 5624 Sep 19 1989 part02.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 16 21 5504 Sep 19 1989 part03.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 16 21 4531 Sep 19 1989 part04.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 16 21 5045 Sep 19 1989 part05.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 16 21 3046 Sep 19 1989 part06.Z nonsense with close to zero information content? You want us to ftp back a third of a megabyte full of that? (not to mention all of the old outdated versions of software that uunet has long after new versions are announced.) no way. esp. not over this person's 19.2kb line. and also: [rbj@uunet 29] zcat ~ftp/ls-lR.Z |wc 39816 227715 1711169 We don't need people stat'ing 4000 files several times a day, or worse yet, at night. As I said, please be careful. you have control over your ftp server, turn it off it you don't like it; reject recursive directory descents at the top level or two of your hierarchy. if it's that bad, it's within your power to solve it by administrative policy rather than jawboning us poor coders into not writing code. uunet is very different from the ordinary anonymous ftp system; many of the other 1000 or so sites have adequate CPU to handle a well-aimed request. if the net as a whole is beating up on your machines so bad, why don't you drop a few grand on a nice scsi disk and a cheap risc machine, call it "ftp.uu.net", and let the world know that it's out there. should extend the life of your existing gear, and since it'll be non-paying customers who are stat'ing files left and right they will have no right to complain if things are too slow. block non-paying customers from the revenue system. obperl: (not quite even) it's worth your while to pick up the log_archie script just posted to comp.sources.misc; nice way of keeping a tidy account of archie search sessions. (but it's in awk. so use a2pl first if you feel obligated) -- Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, MSEN Inc. emv@msen.com "(6) The Plan shall identify how agencies and departments can collaborate to ... expand efforts to improve, document, and evaluate unclassified public-domain software developed by federally-funded researchers and other software, including federally-funded educational and training software; " "High-Performance Computing Act of 1991, S. 272"