Xref: utzoo comp.mail.misc:5449 comp.mail.uucp:6518 news.admin:14394 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!agate!janus.Berkeley.EDU!jbuck From: jbuck@janus.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp,news.admin Subject: Re: BITFTP grief! Message-ID: <1991May17.183950.25550@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 17 May 91 18:39:50 GMT References: <1991May16.145758.6817@uu.psi.com> <1991May16.224338.286@crom2.uucp> Sender: root@agate.berkeley.edu (Charlie Root) Distribution: na Organization: U.C. Berkeley Lines: 26 In article <1991May16.224338.286@crom2.uucp> jim@crom2.uucp (James P. H. Fuller) writes: >>To transfer files we use a tried and true mechanism: FTP. > > Can you say "0% reliability?" FTP to uucp-only sites doesn't work >AT ALL. What's your advice for them? "Screw you, Jack, I've got mine?" >Harrumph! No, the answer for UUCP-only sites who can't anonymous FTP is to anonymous UUCP. There are a number of sites that provide this service; osu-cis, uunet (in addition to providing the service for regular customers, they have a 900 number so anyone can use the service). The answer to reducing the long distance charges is for UUCP-only folks to set up more archive sites and more anonymous UUCP sites. For those that wail, "but it costs money if I do that", it costs money whether you place the call yourself or pass the bill onto someone else. Sites on the Internet are paying for their access. Sites with long-distance UUCP connections are paying phone bills and (in some cases) access charges. No one's saying "Screw you, Jack"; you have alternatives. They are simply saying that they won't subsidize your large file transfers. -- -- Joe Buck jbuck@janus.berkeley.edu {uunet,ucbvax}!janus.berkeley.edu!jbuck