Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!grissom.larc.nasa.gov!kludge From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: Re: Watch, peeking, and security threats Message-ID: <1991May16.142436.15468@news.larc.nasa.gov> Date: 16 May 91 14:24:36 GMT References: <9105160430.AA04272@eclectic.com> Sender: news@news.larc.nasa.gov (USENET Network News) Reply-To: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey) Organization: NASA Langley Research Center Lines: 15 In article <9105160430.AA04272@eclectic.com> kovar@ECLECTIC.COM (David C. Kovar) writes: > The problem isn't in the tools that let you see the wire, it's >in the applications that are stupid enough to transmit important >data in the clear. Telnet/ftp have been doing this since they >were first written, and people have been complaining for nearly >as wrong. It's a shame that it may take security violations to get >this sort of thing fixed, but that's what it looks like. While much of it is indeed the fault of the protocol, a good deal of blame should be laid on an operating system which permits any user running any program to access any device in any way. The operating system should provide user authentication and not permit untrusted users to put the ethernet card in promiscuous mode. For any installation with multiple machines and networks, this is the case. --scott