Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!uunet.UU.NET!sef From: arnold%audiofax.com@mathcs.emory.edu (Arnold Robbins) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: awk syntax Message-ID: <1991May14.185737.15746@uunet.uu.net> Date: 14 May 91 16:48:07 GMT References: <1991May13.222855.9433@uunet.uu.net> Sender: usenet@uunet.uu.net (UseNet News) Reply-To: arnold@audiofax.com Organization: AudioFAX, Inc., Atlanta Georgia Lines: 65 Approved: sef@uunet.uu.net (Moderator, Sean Eric Fagan - comp.std.unix) Originator: sef@uunet.UU.NET Nntp-Posting-Host: uunet.uu.net X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Submitted-by: arnold%audiofax.com@mathcs.emory.edu (Arnold Robbins) >In article <1991May11.224436.25175@uunet.uu.net> arnold@audiofax.com writes: >> (How do I know that awk 'BEGIN { print "hi" } ; END { print "bye" }' >> is legal while awk 'BEGIN { print "hi" } END { print "bye" }' >> isn't? Presenting a grammar for the language is almost a necessity...) In article <1991May13.222855.9433@uunet.uu.net> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >It isn't? I use the latter all the time! History lesson time. First of all, posix awk is "new" awk, not old awk. It is based on the awk in the 1988 book by Aho, Weinberger and Kernighan. It has some additional features that have gone in to both att & gnu awk. One of the things that happened when new awk was first realeased was a lot of cleaning up and consistencizing (if I may coin a term) of the awk language. In particular, rules had to be seperated by either a newline or a semi-colon, just like the statements inside an action. Here's a real live example from my V.3.2 system: Script started on Tue May 14 12:25:28 1991 audiofax1> rlogin tiktok Password: ESIX System 5.3.2 Rev.D Copyright (C) 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988 AT&T Copyright (C) 1987, 1988 Microsoft Corp. Copyright (C) 1988, 1989, 1990 Everex Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved Login last used: Tue May 14 12:24:29 1991 TERM=at386 tiktok> nawk 'BEGIN { print "hi" } ; END { print "bye" }' /dev/null hi bye tiktok> nawk 'BEGIN { print "hi" } END { print "bye" }' /dev/null nawk: syntax error at source line 1 context is BEGIN { print "hi" } >>> END <<< { print "bye" } nawk: bailing out at source line 1 tiktok> Connection closed. audiofax1> script done on Tue May 14 12:26:28 1991 Based on a cursory reading of the grammar in the posix spec, this rule applies. Alas, some time back, backwards compatibility reared it's ugly head within AT&T, and for V.4 nawk, Brian Kernighan "fixed" things so that the seperator is no longer necessary. (This was at the request of the System V folks.) David Trueman went ahead and fixed gawk to be the same way (adding heavily to the number of shift/reduce conflicts in the grammar). So, the upshot is that technically, leaving out the semi-colon or newline is not legal, but most likely you can get away with it. -- Arnold Robbins AudioFAX, Inc. | Threads are the 2000 Powers Ferry Road, Suite 200 / Marietta, GA. 30067 | lack of an idea. INTERNET: arnold@audiofax.com Phone: +1 404 618 4281 | -- Rob Pike UUCP: emory!audfax!arnold Fax-box: +1 404 618 4581 | [ I think this discussion is getting more towards the realm of comp.unix.questions. I'm keeping this part of it here because it is related to *nix standards and a good example of how fun they are. -- mod ] Volume-Number: Volume 23, Number 68