Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!sage.cc.purdue.edu!asg From: asg@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Grand Master) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: 486 clone vs. Amiga 3000 Message-ID: <12420@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 16 May 91 19:53:49 GMT References: <1991May12.211848.7252@athena.mit.edu> <48814@ut-emx.uucp> <24739@well.sf.ca.us> <00674274081@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu Reply-To: asg@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Grand Master) Organization: Purdue University Lines: 58 In article <00674274081@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM> elg@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM (Eric Lee Green) writes: }From article <1991May12.211848.7252@athena.mit.edu>, by reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal): }> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- }> Price(aka God) $2999 ~3100 educational Must be a pretty shitty 486. What kinda memory - and what access time for that? (there's gotta be something amiss) } }Note that with the current Power Up program, you could get the Amiga 3000 }for around $2100, then add monitor. Are you saying that you can use the Power Up deal with an edu discount? If anyone out there knows the verity of this PLEASE respond ASAP. I would also appreciate a number I could call to verify it at commodore. I am in the markey for an A3000, and if the Power up deal and edu discount can both be used now, I will buy it now. } }As for which you want to get -- it all depends on what you want to do with }the machine. If you want a fast machine with fast I/O and a fast window }system, you probably want the Amiga. If you want a REALLY fast machine with }SLOW I/O and a slow window system, you probably want the '486 machine. }(Note that any '486 you buy for $2999 is going to have an I/O system that }sucks dead puppy dogs... i.e., the absolute scuzziest and slowest hard }drive controller, hard drive, and video card that you can buy). If you're }doing CPU-intensive stuff that doesn't do a whole lot of I/O, the '486 }machine is perfect. (At least, if you run Unix or some other 32-bit OS :-). No, not quite. UNIX is very disk-intensive, and the slow disk I/O will severly punish the performance of the system if it is running UNIX. So I would not say it is ideal for running UNIX at all. } }If you want a '486 machine with a fast I/O bus (EISA or Microchannel), plan }to pay out the nose. If you can deal with the slow AT bus (16 bit, 8mhz), }you'll still pay some for a good fast SCSI controller and VGA card. Note }that the $50 VGA cards quoted in most ads have about 40 wait states for }each access :-}. Better idea would probably be to buy a 386 or 286 with MCA or EISA, and then buy a 486 board. } }-- }Eric Lee Green (318) 984-1820 P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 }elg@elgamy.RAIDERNET.COM uunet!mjbtn!raider!elgamy!elg } Looking for a job... tips, leads appreciated... inquire within... Seriously though. If ANYONE ANYONE ANYONE knows about the possibility of using an edu discount and power up at the same time please reply. thanx Bruce p.s. Even if you cannot use edu and poweer up, i would still appreciate any phone numbers anyone might have that i could call to find out about an A3000T. Thanx --------- ### ## Courtesy of Bruce Varney ### # aka -> The Grand Master # asg@sage.cc.purdue.edu ### ##### # PUCC ### # ;-) # # ;'> # ##