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From: ptavoly@cs.ruu.nl (Peter Tavoly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games
Subject: Re: Chessamster 2100 patch - possible? Yes, but how...
Message-ID: <1991May17.104950.11143@cs.ruu.nl>
Date: 17 May 91 10:49:50 GMT
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In <1991May14.210801.4019@news.stolaf.edu> seebs@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) writes:

>In article <1991May13.150110.10424@cs.ruu.nl> ptavoly@cs.ruu.nl (Peter Tavoly) writes:
>>I did not say impossible, I said that a commercial program that does not
>>know *on beforehand* where the manual protection lies will most likely
>>not find it, unless the programmer has put a message in his code a la:
>>"Here I am, your friendly neighbourhood manual protection! Just change
>>these two pointers, and I'll be gone in a huff, never to bother you again!"
>
>Oh... I thought you meant that no commercial prograrm could do it, period.

I said indeed that no program (commercial or not for that matter) could do it,
but it is the *way* they can't do it, that makes the difference :)
i.e AI is NOT part of any copy program as yet..

I can see the headlines already:

  "Sensational! Project D beat Kasparov!"

Another way to state things is: Not the copy program, but the author of the
copy program can remove protection, since he learns the new protection
techniques and incorporates them into his program.

>There exist many commercial programs (everyone's been listing their names)
>which have paramater files for cracking particular games... That's easy
>enough. Admittedly, the other case would be harder, but *maybe* it's
>possible... ;-)
>
>>>(And I'm never *going* to be Linda Seebach)
>
>> -ThomasT. (And I am never going to be Peter either, as someone quoted me
>>	    in this thread)
>
>Sympathies... I know how hard it can be to be mistaken for me.
>;-)

I meant Peter Tavoly, my brother, whose account (almost exclusively) I am
using. (He occasionally asks whether he got mail.. :)
(Just for the utterly stupid: (again) I am Thomas Tavoly, brother of Peter
Tavoly)

>
>Note that I now have my own account back, so I'm no longer mndaily...

OK, >Linda< :^) 

>
>>Thomas Tavoly, Commercial Computer Science - HEAO Utrecht, NL.           / / /
>
>--SeebS--
>--
>Peter Seebach - The Laughing Prophet     |     |        Anonymous Posting Here!
>I don't speak for St. Olaf, St. Olaf     |     |           seebs@acc.stolaf.edu
>doesn't speak for me, and Marcel Marceau |     | "Forgive them Father, for they
>speaks for no one.                       |     |        do not get the joke..."

 -ThomasT.

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