Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.hardware:9219 comp.sys.amiga.misc:3646 comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:1281 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!viusys!uxui!unislc!dave From: dave@unislc.uucp (Dave Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace Subject: Re: NEW Commodore Upgrade for A1000 Owners! Message-ID: <1991May14.230304.21189@unislc.uucp> Date: 14 May 91 23:03:04 GMT References: <1991May07.224440.2764@ariel.unm.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Organization: unisys Lines: 72 From article <1991May07.224440.2764@ariel.unm.edu>, by kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland): > upgrade deal. Shoot, I bought my Amiga 3000 (16/50) after selling > my amiga 2000 off to some blood sucker. On student deal I got Well, I bought mine on the student deal, and when the power-up deal came along, I compared prices. I payed less on the student deal for my setup than I would have on the power-up deal. (A3000/25/50 1950 monitor) > the piece of sh*t. And that is exactly what it is, 2.0 is a gas, > only 10% of the software I have works with it. Only 10% of the software I have won't work with it. Of course I don't use my 3000 as a game machine, and most non-game software seems to work just fine on it (and the little I have that doesn't has upgrades on the way). Now, of course I play games too, but if I only wanted to play games I probably would have went A500. What software of yours doesn't work? > The acceleration > isn't all that noticeable (unless you use 2.0). The hard drive is alright, > and pretty fast but where the f*ck is that 68040 upgrade. Sounds like you want a Cray for five bucks. The acceleration will be very noticable (in productivity (read non-games) software) if you have more than two megs, so that the code will be executing from FAST memory instead of CHIP memory (fast mem on the 3000 can result in a 6 times speed improvement over chip mem). > Fellow student deal buyers, Commodore is screwing us. > Screwing the general public too. The worse part about the deal (from > a once optimistic view-point now turned evil) is that you get to keep > your old computer. This is one outrageously funny deal, they are even > offering this crap to VIC 20 users. I wonder if the deal includes > the multi-scan (cost me 600 dollars). As I said above, when I bought mine, the student deal was (and maybe still is) a better deal than power-up. I don't think power-up includes the monitor. The student deal did for me. > I'm buying a NeXT or IBM 486. > To hell with you Commodore. And I know your employees and lines are on these > networks. If I could sue you I would. I have a friend that payed $6000 dollars for an 8mhz IBM AT when it came out. I guess he should sue IBM now. NeXT has a 68040 machine out now because they were willing to sell machines with a beta version of the 68040 to customers, and make all kinds of interesting workarounds in the O.S. to get around bugs in the chip. What application do you have that requires so much acceleration and yet won't work with 2.0? Most applications that are this intensive were written with accelerated amigas in mind, and will generally also work fine under 2.0 (You can always boot under 1.3 if it doesn't). Go ahead get a NeXT cube, add a next dimension board and enough hard disk to hold it all. This is not an inexpensive system at this point, even at student prices. I do hope you don't start whining when the software prices are a minimum of 50 dollars higher just for the distribution media. I'd like to know what the equivalent to Imagine costs on the next, even if it exists. I know that the LOW COST ray tracers for the IBM and clones start at $3000! Take a look at the latest byte (or maybe last months) low cost 3-D comes to the PC article. Sorry to ramble on and take up bandwidth, but sometimes I just can't keep my hands off of a posting like this. -- VAX Headroom Speaking for myself only... blah blah blahblah blah... Internet: DMARTIN@CC.WEBER.EDU dave@saltlcy-unisys.army.mil uucp: dave@unislc.uucp or use the Path: line. Now was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized.