Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!bagate!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: A3000 and Syquest -- booting Message-ID: <21605@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 15 May 91 16:48:34 GMT References: <21010.282c6b6a@oregon.uoregon.edu> <1991May13.115455@alamo.Berkeley.EDU> <21017.282eec91@oregon.uoregon.edu> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Distribution: usa Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 34 In article <21017.282eec91@oregon.uoregon.edu> gpotts@oregon.uoregon.edu writes: >> This is not a Syquest specific problem. I have a Syquest 44 and a Seagate >> 277 in an external box, and I also have to disconnect the cable when leaving >> them powered off. >Well, this suonds to me like a serious shortcoming of the A3000's SCSI >manager. The Mac's SCSI manager, for all its problems, can at least go >out on the external buss, find what is there and powered up, mount what >is flagged as mountable, and ignore the rest, so we know it can be done. There's no guarantee that any kind of bus/software combination can deal with things left turned off but still connected. Most devices have a totally unknown characteristic when left powered down. You can actually have a powered down bus buffer kind of turn on when power from the bus reached its inputs. The likely outcome of such a condition is that the whole bus gets dragged down. This has nothing to do with any problems that may or may not be seen in a system with fully powered up devices. If such a removable media device is powered up but not fitted with a disk, there's no hardware reason any system software shouldn't be able to deal with it. >On a related note -- is it possible to se a HD partition to SKIP with the >HDToolbox? With my Supra SCSI controller I was able to set a partition to >BOOT, MOUNT, or SKIP and thus create partitions that did not mount at boot >time but that could be mounted later with the AmigaDOS "Mount" command. While I have never tried it, HDToolBox does let you designate partitions as automounted or not, which I guess is the same thing you're talking about here. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy "That's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight" -R.E.M.