Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!midway!quads.uchicago.edu!rtp1 From: rtp1@quads.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Re: HP Hype (new role for ADUS) Message-ID: <1991May17.164339.665@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 17 May 91 16:43:39 GMT References: <910427181103.2a79@CIM-VAX.HONEYWELL.COM> <980003@hpfcmgw.HP.COM> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (NewsMistress) Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 43 Chan Benson, of HP writes: >Look at the bright side, you could have purchased an IBM 6000/550 >a month ago and then yesterday seen its value drop from $130,000 >to $52,500. I wish Mr. Benson would keep his snide and irrelevant remarks to himself. I happen to own an IBM 730, and unlike the DN10k, it performs as advertised, and also unlike HP/Apollo I have been very well taken care of by IBM sales and technical support. I am delighted that IBM has dropped the price on the 550, as it now makes it possible for me to afford to buy more of them. Note also that the price of an upgrade to a 550 from lower machines has been dropped, making it even better for users. Further, owners of 550's who bought at the higher price do not have an obsolete machine on their hands. It is still eligible for future upgrades in the same backplane, you can get nice third party memory for it, and you can hook any disk in the world to the thing. Who ever complains about prices dropping? Nobody expects a computer system to be like a Rolls Royce and increase in value (though I hear that Edsel's are starting to have quite a market among collectors. I think the DN10k is a good candidate for this category). What I am complaining about is the the DN10k is a dead end, and YOUR company failed to deliver on the promises made for the machine when I bought it. So, Mr. Snide Benson, when are you going to drop the maintainence costs on my 10k by 50% ? When are you going to charge a fair price for memory and disks? What are you afraid of-- users complaining about loss of value of their equipment. Jeez, you guys really know how to keep up customer good will. As far as I can see, HP wasn't interested in either Apollo hardware or software technology when it bought Apollo. It was only interested in the Apollo customer base. You seem to expect Apollo users to junk their current equipment and buy HP stuff. In this, I think you are HALF right. I'll leave you to guess which half. .