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From: greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.)
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Subject: Re: Term Progs
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Date: 16 May 91 19:32:56 GMT
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SHBOUM@MACALSTR.EDU writes:
>kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:

>>ProTERM does have problems.  #1, the editor
>>is FAR too small.  I have 3.8Megs of scollback and only 40K of editor.  Excuse
>>me?  That's just silly.
 
>Yea, that is a drawback. That
>decision was made by the programmers. Hopefully they'll let the users decide
>in 3.0

Yeah, it is an annoying limit.  I often have large files to edit, and I
don't like using AppleWorks anymore.

Now if you could edit your scrollback, that would be better.

>>#2, it does not support ansi characters.  A GS/OS could use PC MONOSPACED and
>>get the ANSI character set....

>having ANSI has nothing to do with the application being
>GS/OS or not. Again, thats up to the programmers.

In fact, ANSI has nothing to do with graphic characters.  Those are native
to the PC, as is MouseText to the Apple II series.

Still, if you want color IBM text, you're going to have to depend on
hardware, be it extra hardware on a //e, or be on a IIgs.

>>#5, The Zmodem does not work, period.  The Ymodem sends and expects a ProDOS
>>header at all times, which means you do not get file info when downloading
>>from a board with REAL ymodem.

>	ZModem does not work PERIOD? If that was true, all the downloading
>I've done from our VAX and GEnie have been all a mirage. Granted, ProTERM's
>ZModem does have problems, its still my first choice when I'm downloading.
>I have had some problems with YModem at times, but ZModem has always been
>able to pick up where YModem has left off. Sure the file info may not get
>saved, but that is easily fixed.

Too bad the setup here won't let me use Zmodem unless I have 8th-bit
quoting ability, which ProTERM does not have.  Everything seems designed
to work with a connection to an Apple BBS, doesn't it.  I guess you can
expect that when one of the people behind ProTERM was also the author of
GBBS.

>>There are other things too... but this is enough for now.  ProTERM is great
>>and I like it, but it is seriously limited in many ways.

There is still a problem with the scrollback and RAMdisks.  ProTERM will
now not overwrite a portion of the RAMdisk, but if it is using space about
to be used by the RAMdisk, you get a disk error when you try to save.
That is annoying.  (To alleviate this problem, I had to up the minimum
RAMdisk size, which I normally keep at 0K.  Now its at 800K max & min.
(Max so that it is easier to back up /RAM5.))

The emulations for VT-100 and ProTERM Special need work.  Not all ^R
sequences work, and ASCII Sends in VT-100 make trash of the scrollback.

One thing that really gets me mad is one problem ProTERM has with its
interrupts.  I'm not talking about the things others have mentioned, just
a specific case.  For the record, I have a ROM 01 Apple IIgs, 1.25 MB RAM,
DataLink 2400 modem connected at 2400.  I have found that when an
infinitum of ^Ms come to me over the line, my machine appears to lock up,
excluding the sequence for control panel.  I can't even use the apple key
to call up the menu, much less send a break code or signal without
inducing line noise.  Scrolling the screen and receiving data seems to
take all the CPU's attention, and thus it ignores me completely.  When I
go to the control panel, I see the standard phenomenon of loss of
characters in the control panel.

This version 3.0 had better fix these problems and more.

>- Hal

>| Hal Bouma				| Send mail to: SHBoum@Macalstr.edu    |
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