Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!chaph.usc.edu!aludra.usc.edu!baffoni From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: System 7 and Spectre Message-ID: <17273@chaph.usc.edu> Date: 15 May 91 06:28:55 GMT References: <9105141732.AA19207@cwns10.INS.CWRU.Edu> Sender: news@chaph.usc.edu Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 33 Nntp-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu In article <9105141732.AA19207@cwns10.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq009@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes: > >At the Windsor Atari show, Dave Small said that he had tested System 7 on >Spectre. It works, but he called the System 7 software "a dog." He said >it was terribly slow and crashed often. I doubt that Spectre is to blame >for the slowness and crashing. It may be that he was just using an >unrefined pre-release version--or maybe Apple really messed up on System 7. >I suppose one should check it out before getting it for their Spectre (or >Mac, for that matter). It must have been a beta-version. Nobody (except the guys who made it) had the "golden copy" of system7 any earlier than a week or so before the official release. If it was the sys7b4 release, it runs like a dog on even Mac computers :). However, this makes me wonder: will the SST and the TT be able to take advantage of the Virtual Memory handling of sys7? I ask this because (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) I believe that Spectre (all versions) emulate the Mac Plus, so if the sys7 uses system calls to determine the hardware it is being run on, then maybe it will think it is using a 68k rather than an '030 and therefore be unable to use the PMMU of the '030. BTW, Dave (or anyone else in the know), have you fixed the TT cart. port problem? I _think_ that was the problem that people were having running Spectre 3.0 on TTs ... (again, correct me if I'm wrong....). > >-- > __ David Johnson Michigan State University > / \ ___ ___ > / //__/| //__ aq009@cleveland.freenet.edu >/___// / |_//__ djohnson@ibm.cl.msu.edu -Mike