Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!bellcore!rutgers!dimacs.rutgers.edu!seismo!esosun!forseti.css.gov From: tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Formatting a 1.44 MB disk to 720 kB...how? Message-ID: <718@esosun.UUCP> Date: 17 May 91 20:16:41 GMT References: <1991May16.220514.23423@ariel.unm.edu> <1991May17.081931.7014@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@esosun.UUCP Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida) Organization: Science Aplications Int'l Corp. Lines: 40 In-reply-to: c164-al@katerina.uucp (Joon Song) In article <1991May17.081931.7014@agate.berkeley.edu>, c164-al@katerina (Joon Song) writes: >It seems that most 3.5" drives look for a hole in the disk casing to >determine the density of the media. So if you want to format a high-density >3.5" disk to 720K, just cover the high density hole with some scotch tape. >Now you have a high density disk which looks like a double density disk to >the disk drive. However, if you take scotch tape off and uncover the high >density hole, the disk will probably be unreadable on most machines. > >Now some people out there are probably going to say something like: > "all you need to do is type 'format b: /t:80 /n:9' from the command line". > >Well, that may work on some machines (most notably IBM PS/2s), but on >most machines, a high density 3.5" disk drive will refuse to format a HD >disk to DD for the same reason that it will refuse to format a DD disk to >HD. (I know that doesn't make any sense, but it's true.) A lot of drives don't look for the extra hole that is characteristic of the HD media, but, because of all the types of disk drives out there, you never know (and hence I agree with this). There is another issue: You will get some kind of weird failure error if you take a previously formatted, HD disk and try to low-density format it. This comes from the 'media descriptor' byte, located on the very first absolute sector on the disk. For some lame reason, some format programs look at this and balk if you attempt to switch densities on them (including the Norton format program, at least in version 4.5). If you 1) use a magnet to wipe the disk out, or 2) use some sector editor to change the media descriptor byte, you can switch formats. I don't know off hand what the values are or what the exact location of this byte is on the disk (other than that it's in the first absolute sector- sector 1, not 0, don't ask me why that is either :-) ). This puzzled me for the longest time until I stumbled across it in Hayden Books' "Advanced MS-DOS Programming", which covers both absolute and MSDOS logical disk layouts. -Tom tanida@esosun.css.gov