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From: steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield;232HMB;3-6292;;MF62)
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Subject: Re: HyperCard in System 7 Upgrade
Message-ID: <1991May16.223411.28619@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 16 May 91 22:34:11 GMT
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In article <1991May15.184533.2610@wlbr.imsd.contel.com> fdm@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:
#>In article <1991May15.163318.10245@agate.berkeley.edu> steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) writes:
#>>I'm getting the strong impression, from some of the
#>>postings I've seen, that the version of HyperCard
#>>which is bundled with the individual user upgrade
#>>I just ordered won't be the "full-power" version.
#> 
#>Actually, I'm kind of surprised that there is even
#>a version of HyperCard included at all (considering
#>I just spent $59.xx to upgrade to 2.0...)
#>
#>>Is that impression correct or am I just paranoid
#>>about being screwed by Apple (again)?
#>
#>No, the screwing actually occurs when you have to
#>fork out $$ to upgrade to HyperCard.  You are actually
#>getting a freebie here, so you must definitely be
#>getting paranoid.  I'd say that you may want to visit
#>your nearest shrink, as you are beginning to take your
#>Mac way too seriously...   :-)
#>
#>>Steve Goldfield
#>
#>--Frank Malczewski                        (fdm@wlv.imsd.contel.com)

Ignoring the misplaced sarcasm above, a lot of the people
responding to my comment appear to be ignorant of the
well-publicized agreement between Apple and Bill Atkinson,
who wrote HyperCard. That agreement provided that Apple had
to give HyperCard away. As I stated to someone who sent me
mail, I have no objection to Apple charging for manuals when
they upgrade HyperCard because it costs money to print the
manuals. But the program and its new upgrades should be given
away according to the original agreement. In the case of System
7, I am paying ($95 worth at our university price) for the
upgrade. Since the old version of HyperCard won't work with
System 7, it certainly is logical and consistent with the old
agreement to give away the new compatible version with the System
7 upgrade. If the full manuals and stacks aren't included, that
appears at least in spirit, if not in letter, to violate the
agreement. $95 should pay for quite a bit of printing and
shipping.

Steve Goldfield