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From: bellamy@covax.commerce.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: The `correct' way to use MacTCP with System 7.0
Message-ID: <1991May15.145105.2573@covax.commerce.uq.oz.au>
Date: 15 May 91 04:51:05 GMT
References: <9549@idunno.Princeton.EDU> <1991May14.232949.16950@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University of Queensland
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In article <1991May14.232949.16950@agate.berkeley.edu>, steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield;232HMB;3-6292;;MF62) writes:
> In article <9549@idunno.Princeton.EDU> bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:
[fudged methos to get MacTCP to work deleted]

> #>Until a new release of MacTCP is, um, released, this is the only way I
> #>know of to get it to work, and I've had no problems with it so far.

> Your method is what NCSA recommends. However, other problems with
> MacTCP are reported. Apparently, while it is running, your Apple
> menu does not work properly; if you try to launch something it
> just beeps. (This problem may only occur with NCSA Telnet 2.3,
> and may be OK with 2.4. If so, then it is a Telnet problem and
> not a MacTCP problem.) Apple (as of a demo I went to today)
> is promising a new version of MacTCP in June or July. MacTCP
> also does not work with virtual memory.
> 
> So, yes, it will work, but no it doesn't work perfectly.
> 


******* Danger Will Robinson FLAME ATTACK **********

I find this absolutely incredible.  Apple went through this two year
development cycle for Sys 7 (yes two years, 7 was previewed in April 89
although some of the expected features did not make it). Various beta
versions were sent to developers so they could get their software to work
with 7 (congrats Apple for that).  But someone seems to have slipped up,
why did not the people (person?) who looks after MacTCP get a copy of Sys 7.
If MacTCP needed to be fixed why was not a MacTCP 1.1 updater available 
before or with System 7 release.

Even stranger MacTCP 1.0.2 was a bug fix released for X window applications 
but no changes seemed to be made for Sys 7 even though Sys 7 must have been 
almost to beta by then.

Is this a case of Apple extolling the development community to get their 
software ready for Apple's great new OS but ignoring its own software 
compatibility (I believe Sys 7 is good, if only ftp.apple.com would come
online, sigh).  Note also that the AppleShare server for 7 will not be
available until September/October (current version is incompatible with 
Multifinder [it says so in the manual] and MF is the only finder in 7)

************** Extinguish Cosmic Flamer ***********



I do hope that when MacTCP 1.1 or whatever is release that it is free to 
owners of 1.0.1/2, and that an updater may even be posted to the net. (In 
Australia we have to wait weeks/months for new software).


-- 
David E. Bellamy        Email: bellamy@covax.commerce.uq.oz.au
Dept. Commerce, University of Queensland, St. Lucia, AUSTRALIA