Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!mojo!russotto From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple should let us e-mail System 7 Message-ID: <1991May15.221944.2905@eng.umd.edu> Date: 15 May 91 22:19:44 GMT References: <6944@cactus.org> <1991May15.185019.1395@eng.umd.edu> <52925@apple.Apple.COM> Sender: news@eng.umd.edu (C-News) Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park Lines: 47 In article <52925@apple.Apple.COM> bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes: >Matthew Russotto: >|The checker lies like a rug. Apple made, IMO, a big mistake in accepting >|mfgr's word for it rather than testing themselves-- it looks like the mfgrs >|said that things wouldn't work just to get customers to shell out the $$ for >|an upgrade. >Um, hate to disagree, but there are about 165 people here to set you >straight. They tested System 7 with "over 777" pieces of software >compiling the reports. (source: Roger Heinen) My source is the compatibility checker stack itself.... --- Macintosh System 7 has proven compatible with most recent versions of the most widely used Macintosh software. The developers of these products have provided Apple with the information that appears in this report. --- >Note that your definitions might be different: Apple would not claim a >piece of software was "compatible" or "mostly compatible" if it >crashed randomly but infrequently. In the case of MacWrite II, "mostly >compatible" means that it doesn't work right with True Type fonts >bigger than 127 points. As best I know (and I am not one of the >testers) avoiding fonts >127 points means that MacWrite II doesn't >have any problems. > >The attitude was definitely "better safe than sorry" -- especially >since precious data might be lost. > >Apple also elected not to provide detailed reports of exactly what the >problems were in its stack. This definitely hampers the cheapskate who >won't upgrade his/her software, but has the side-effect of making the >stack fit on less than 100 disks. Cheapskate? I have 21 pieces of software listed as 'Must Upgrade'. Figure out the price of THAT! Some, like Silverlining, is obvious crap-- SilverLining works, except that you can't unmount volumes (DeskTop manager interferes). SUM Tools works. Even HyperCard 2.0 works. -- Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu .sig under construction, like the rest of this campus.