Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!ucsd!nic.cerf.net!grumpy.sdsc.edu!benseb From: benseb@grumpy.sdsc.edu (Booker Bense) Newsgroups: comp.sys.super Subject: Re: How you define a supercomputer ? Message-ID: <377@nic.cerf.net> Date: 14 May 91 18:23:00 GMT References: <1991May12.160205.9784@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <1991May13.051215.8101@nas.nasa.gov> Sender: news@nic.cerf.net Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD Lines: 41 In article <1991May13.051215.8101@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes: >In article <1991May12.160205.9784@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> >ury@mossad.huji.ac.il (ury segal) writes: >>How you define a supercomputer ? ( >100 MIPS ???) > >You have to ask the United States Department of Commerce. > - I think this list should just about cover it %-)! A supercomputer has the following characteristics: - Lots of memory, but not quite enough to run your problem. - It should be difficult to program. Assembly is the prefered language of supercomputers. Fortran or C compilers are acceptable, any machine with a lisp compiler can not be a supercomputer. - The ablity to run the LINPACK benchmark at near the maximum speed after months of massaging assembly routines. The inablity to run portable code at greater than 1/10th the machine speed. - Non portable language extensions are a must.!!! Any code that is optimized for one machine should require several months to get running on any other supercomputer. - Frequent crashes just as your job is finishing up it's output. - Of course , we can't forget I/O bottlenecks. - Hundreds / thousands of users competing for cpu time. - Cryptic operating systems. Or if they use a commonly available one it should be at least 2-3 revisions behind what you are used to. REMEMBER, this is a joke !!!! - Booker C. Bense prefered: benseb@grumpy.sdsc.edu "I think it's GOOD that everyone NeXT Mail: benseb@next.sdsc.edu becomes food " - Hobbes