Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ncar!gatech!rutgers!cmcl2!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: tty security problems under SunOS 4.1 and SunOS 4.1.1 Message-ID: <16155@smoke.brl.mil> Date: 14 May 91 20:09:02 GMT References: <25239:May1416:21:3591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD. Lines: 16 In article <25239:May1416:21:3591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >In the long term: SunOS is still insecure, and a sufficiently dedicated >cracker can and will be able to get past tty security no matter how many >other holes you close. It is inexcusable for Sun to leave this open. Why? Has Sun made any promises about absolute security of SunOS? For example, are they claiming B2 certification for it? I've always had the impression that UNIX was intended for resource sharing much more than for resource hiding, and that the security mechanisms were meant to prevent accidental problems, not dedicated attacks. I guarantee that there are other security problems on most versions of UNIX besides the one you've been carrying on about. What makes that one problem so much more significant than the others?