Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!343!71!Verna.Forristal From: Verna.Forristal@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Verna Forristal) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Sign films Message-ID: <15594@handicap.news> Date: 14 May 91 13:53:19 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: Verna.Forristal@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/71 - Seattle Hearing Imp, Seattle WA Lines: 32 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 15594 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] RD> Anyway, what I guess I really want to know is this: is it common for a RD> hearing person to echo back (talk) what a Deaf person has just signed RD> to them? (As happens in films like LINS and COALG). It seems unlikely RD> to me, and that's why I'm complaining about it. My theory is (see the RD> previous messages) that film producers haven't quite grasped the fact RD> that Sign is a foreign language---so they don't subtitle, but use a RD> naff communication mechanism that I've been calling the Lassie factor. RD> But maybe I'm wrong... When working with a combination of "hearies" and "deafies" I always speak what is signed and sign what is spoken so that everyone can keep up with the conversation. It carries over. When I learned to sign, I always spoke because my teacher was very good at speech reading, and she could correct my errors, both in what I signed and in what I thought that she signed. I still do it, as it helps me follow what I'm doing, because I've been away from the signing world for some time, and as a result, have lost the ability to "Think" in sign language. Especially with ASL it is difficult for me, as I tend to stick in all the extra SEE signs. I really need to get back around signers so that I can start "thinking" signs again, instead of English. I can't speak for anyone else, but personally, I speak both when signing and when being signed. Perhaps I'll find a signer with the patience of a saint who can toss down a few while trying to help me become intelligible again. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!343!71!Verna.Forristal Internet: Verna.Forristal@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org