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From: Earl.Appleby@f429.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Earl Appleby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Euthanasia
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Date: 14 May 91 20:15:40 GMT
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 In your May 6 message to the *pro-euthanasia* Russell Hunt from Down Under
 (not our *anti-euthanasia* American Russell Hunt who, God bless
 him, likes his sick people above the ground) you respond:

 RH>> Im puzzled. In this part of the world euthanasia relates to people
 RH>> of sound mind making a conscious decision when faced with a
 RH>> prognosis which they choose not to live. Yet, most of this
 RH>> conversation focuses on a decision to cease life by someone else for
 RH>> an individual who can't express a view ie. coma.

 JC>         Euthanasia is the same in the U.S.  It is the fear
 JC> mongers who keep bringing up the idea of others doing it to you.
 JC> Of course they fail to realize that killing me without my consent
 JC> is called MURDER.

 Try telling that to Clarence Herbert who was starved to death in
 California *WITHOUT* his consent.  The Los Angeles D.A. thought it was
 murder too, (I know I spoke with him on several occasions) but the
 judge ruled it was a medical (non)treatment decision (sic and sick)!
 And just what do you think they're trying to do to Helga Wanglie
 *WITHOUT* her consent and *AGAINST* the vigorous opposition of her
 husband, Oliver, and her adult children, David and Ruth, (not to
 mention another David against Goliath...CURE)?  And do you really think
 little Baby Doe consented to be starved to death on Good Friday because
 he was born retarded? I only hope your neswletter places a higher
 standard on objective reality (a.k.a. truth) than your response.

As for "fear mongering," when men in black coats give men in white coats
a license to kill the sick and disabled, perhaps, a little old-fashioned
fear is in order.  It just might save your life.  That is, of course, if
you value it. And even if you don't, you have *no* right to make it easier
for the euthanasians to murder those who do.

Earl, a "fear monger", but no fool.

... Justice is truth in action! (CURE: 304-258-LIFE)

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