Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!fmgst From: fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: >> WANTED: ScHeMaTiC FoR TeLePhOnE LiNe "In UsE" bLiNkEr Summary: here it is.... Keywords: PHONE IN-USE L.E.D. (schematics) Message-ID: <128003@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 14 May 91 17:00:05 GMT Followup-To: sci.electronics Organization: The Last Jedi Lines: 155 >> CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A HAND WITH A SCHEMATIC? > >If there are replies to this question please post to net- I am also >interested. Thank you. Greetings. I got this off the net but deleted the headers, so, just to make things clear, I DID NOT WRITE THIS... there :-) (By the way, with all this talk of TAB books being a waste of trees, one of the schematics in this post is from a TAB book ?!?!) ******************* cut - here ************************************ I took ideas from schematics posted here a few days ago and constructed a telephone "line in use" indicator. Here's the circuit... 1M 1k / E (to +5) >----- -----\/\/\----+---\/\/\-----| | \ C \ | / 220k \ from \ / 1k phone bridge | \ line | | | LED | | >------ --------------+---------------+ | GND The transistor is a PNP Motorola 3638 with hFE of around 100 (probably doesn't matter). Also, you could use this with different supply voltages if you change the 220k resistor. Also, in case anybody's interested, I found the on-hook open-circuit voltage of my phone line to be 48.7V, and the short circuit current to be 72.8mA. This leads to the conclusion that the line has a resistance of about 670 ohms. There have been a few calls recently in sci.electronics for phone in use circuits (ie a circuit that lights a LED when an extension phone is off hook). Following are two circuits I archived some time ago from sci.electronics. The first appears pretty complete and requires an external 5V power supply. The second seems to be a loop current trap that enables you to move from one extension phone to another without leaving the first phone off hook. I don't know how well either of these circuits work as I haven't actually built them. ---8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<-----8<--- PHONE IN USE CIRCUIT -------------------- I thought I would try to post the schematic. This circuit requires a separate 5 volt supply. The branch of the circuit that contains C1, C2 & R5, R6 is only used as a passive tap. (So you can record the line when the rest of the circuit says 'off hook'. It can be removed if not needed. If used, it can directly drive a microphone input to a portable recoreder. The Output of Q2 completes a path to ground when the phone lines gives an off hook reading. This can drive a relay (for a tape recorder motor) or an LED. Be sure to include a current limiting resistor if an LED is used. Also, D1 may be ommited if a non-inductive load is used (Relays and incandescent (sp?) lamps are inductive) The LED thingy like this that I made for my phone flashes nicely when the phone rings (at the 20..25 Hz ring freq), so I can turn the ringer off, and still get silent ring indication (a feature, not a bug) Well, its not exactly postscript(tm), but if you stand back and squint, you'll get the idea. R5 <----+^v+ +----------+--------* +6vdc (I use 5 volts) R6> | | D1_ < | R3> ^ ___ <----+ | < +--------> Out | | | R8 Q2|/ C1=C2= +-^v-+---| | | R1 BR1__ Q1|/ | |\v *----+------v^---| |--+--+---| R4> | | |~+|R7 T | | | *-------+---v^---|__|--+--+-----+----+-----+--------* Ground |_ /// R1, R2 2.2M Reproduced (kind of) without R3, R4 470K permission. Copyright 1980 R5 470 TAB BOOKS Inc. R6 100 R7 100K R8 220K C1, C2 0.01uf, 100V C3 1.0 uf BR1 Full wave Bridge Rectifier, about 200 VDC (or higher) D1 HEP R0052 (I use 1N400*) Q1, Q1 HEP S9100 -or- NTE-172a >From: barber@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Terri Barber) Subject: Re: How Do I Make a Phone In-Use Light? >>> Another neat phone circuit (VERY simple) uses an scr, a couple of resistors >>> and a button. If you wish to switch phones, you hold in the button (gating >>> the scr), then hang up. The scr maintains loop current. An led could be >> >>Ummm, can you post this one? Enough of us do occasional phone hacking that >>I'd like one as well. > > > I second that. It would be extremely useful around here ... Okay, let's see if I can remember how to do it (I didn't post the original, I just want to stick my $.02 in.... Please excuse the ascii graphics.... -------------------+------+---- | | | / | / momentary switch | | | / | \ 1200 Ohm | / -----____| / \ /___\ SCR | / \ 600 Ohm / | ^^ ----- // / \ // /___\ LED | | -------------------+--------- ******************* cut - here ************************** Take care. P.S. If the person responsible for the above e-mails me, I'll credit this properly..... -- _______________________________________________________________________________ "The Force will be with you, always." It _is_ with me and has been for 11 years Filip Gieszczykiewicz "... a Jedi does it with a mind trick... " ;-) FMGST@PITTVMS or fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu "My ideas. ALL MINE!!"