Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil From: phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Howard KA9WGN) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Library anti-theft walk-thru device...???? Message-ID: <1991May14.202632.3500@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 14 May 91 20:26:32 GMT References: <1991May14.155250.25003@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1991May14.181148.15821@hubcap.clemson.edu> Distribution: usa Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 36 rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink) writes: >little secret. But was it too much to expect that Electrical Engineers who >figure it out, keep their professional mouths shut about it. (Sorry guys/gals Yeah... that is too much to expect. Technical knowledge usually has more that one application. Also the ways to defeat many existant systems are actually trivial anyway. Most of us don't steal nor do we expect vary many of the rest of us to steal. If I knew for a fact that someone WOULD steal if I were to tell him how, I would not tell him. Absent that fact, the information is just technology, not a method to steal. >If we police ourselves, we don't have to worry about someone else doing it >for us. But police ourselves from what? Technology? Take the current cellular telephone system for example. It is illegal to listen in to cellular phone communications. Yet you can do so with a modified scanner. Would it be appropriate for me to post how to modify as scanner to do so? I think it would be OK because there are OTHER legitimate reasons to listen to those particular frequencies, for things other than listening to cellular telephone (such as hams wanting to detect potentially interfering emissions of harmonics from defective transmitters they are operating). I see nothing wrong with describing how something works. We also have the technology to make things work in such a way that even someone who knows how it works can't break it anyway. The problem is that we don't use this technology. -- /***************************************************************************\ / Phil Howard -- KA9WGN -- phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu | Guns don't aim guns at \ \ Lietuva laisva -- Brivu Latviju -- Eesti vabaks | people; CRIMINALS do!! / \***************************************************************************/