Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!aero-c!nadel From: owen@csli.Stanford.EDU (Elizabeth Bratt) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Housewives... Message-ID: <19234@csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 14 May 91 03:50:56 GMT References: <91130.021458IO92142@MAINE.BITNET> Sender: news@aero.org Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 44 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In article <91130.021458IO92142@MAINE.BITNET> IO92142%MAINE.BITNET@VM1.gatech.edu (James Gray) writes: >During a conversation with a friend of mine who is a feminist. >She (no xx), and I were discussing various topics. Finally >I said to her... > >You're going to have to realize that there are women (no womyn) >out there that *want* to be housewives or want to have children >and *not* work while raising them. They want these things. On this issue, I think Betty Friedan's books "The Feminine Mystique" and "The Second Stage" are really illuminating. "The Feminist Mystique" explores the problems of women being forced by societal pressures to think they should get all of their self-worth through motherhood and cleaning house and such. These pressures have no doubt decreased tremendously in the last 30 years, but they're still around. I think a woman who wants to stay home with children or otherwise be a housewife should read this book, where Friedan searched in vain for one happy, fulfilled housewife. Feminism shouldn't be about forcing a certain role onto women, but it should be about making them aware of cultural pressures and helping them choose what they want without guilt. "The Second Stage" is the term Friedan uses for what we have to do now that we as a society have recognized that women have the capacity to be professionals and have identity apart from their families, just as men have always had. Now that we've moved to equalize the workplace, we need to address issues of home, marriage, and family. We need to allow men to share the pleasures and responsibilities that have been associated with these things, as well as women. And we need to recognize that the old structure of jobs without flex-time, without daycare facilities, and without parental leave policies cannot let men or women realize their natural human tendencies toward wanting individual respect and accomplishment through work as well as personal satisfaction and joy through family. The discussion about whether women can stay home to raise children or whether they have to work outside the home is hard to resolve if it's left in terms of these two distinct roles. If you allow people to combine time spent taking care of children and time spent working at a job, either all at once, or with separate chunks of their lives spent at each task, then they don't have to approach a question like this by deciding which part of themselves to sacrifice. Liz