Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!aero-c!nadel From: doll@eng.umd.edu (Steven Doll) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Feminism and Vegetarianism Message-ID: <1991May15.155434.202@eng.umd.edu> Date: 15 May 91 15:54:34 GMT References: <1991May13.223727.8721@aero.org> <49630@ricerca.UUCP> Sender: news@eng.umd.edu (C-News) Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park Lines: 24 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org [Please - let's not get into an animal rights discussion here. There are other newsgroups better suited to that. - MHN] Has anyone noticed a connection between the way women are talked of or treated in western societies and the way animals are talked of and treated: Property, belonging to (a man, humans) "Piece of meat" Little concern for the actual well-being of the (animal, woman) We (men, humans) decide what to do with/for (women, animals) It seem so tangibly related to the heierarchical mapping where the position you hold (viz. power) entitles you to act in the most responsible way you can -- but this you define as the path to your group's pleasure or security or aggrandizement. Say you're a feminist: people laugh; make jokes about burning bras... Say you support animal rights: people laugh; ask you about vegetable rights... Steven doll@wam.umd.edu