Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!apple!sun-barr!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jmcg0401@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Michael Corey) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: I AM DISGUSTED! Message-ID: Date: 18 May 91 04:50:00 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 27 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu jclark@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes: >I don't think values are swiftly changing. In fact, the homosexual >groups seem to be advocating the same values, monogamy, marriage, >stable relationships, as the Christian 'family' protection groups. The >'value' that is changing is 'who is able to declare a stable 'marriage' >relationship". It would seem that some Christians are advocating that >since a homosexual relationship is sinful it may as well be transitory >as well. 2000 years of regulation has not ended homosexual practice, nor >will another 2000 years. The Christians clamor that they are protecting >the 'family' while denying a 'family' designation to all but those >relationship which fit into a very narrow spectrum of posibilities. I don't usually respond to things like this, yet I must now. 2000 years of regulation has not ended homosexual practice, no. Neither has it ended murder, lying, cursing one's parents, self-hate, self-aggrandisement (sp?), telling part of the truth, murder, persecution, adultery, etc. Christ obviously knows that the Church is human, fallen, and thereby incapable of producing "Perfection" in its members. Neither did Christ tell us that we must be found perfect. The only thing that will end ALL SEXUAL PRACTICE both moral and immoral is the return of Christ. This does not address all your concerns voiced in the above paragraph, but it does address some. I suggest, that if you want more info on what "The Christians" say we believe, that you consult a New International Version of the New Testament.