Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi!caen!uwm.edu!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!markh From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Pseudo-machine Message-ID: <12221@uwm.edu> Date: 18 May 91 02:57:53 GMT References: <5329@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@uwm.edu Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Lines: 31 In article <5329@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jones@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov writes: (The look-up table language processor) >The question now arises: Is this entity intelligent? > >I claim that we have a pseudo-issue and a pseudo-question. The reason is >that you could convert all of the matter in the Universe into memory >for such a device, without having nearly enough. Thus the existence of >such a device would be radically impossible. Not so. Almost all the information is redundant, hence a suitable compression algorithm exists to compact all that information into a space smaller than the human brain (which our brain is proof of). This algorithm will convert the set of all utterable sentences into a grammar (suspiciously similar to one posited for human speakers for some strange reason :)), and extract information using an extremely sophisticated decompression/retrieval algorithm on this grammar. Using grammars, incidentally, gives you the ability to store an infinite amount of information in finite space. The size of the Universe is thus clearly no obstacle. The whole process itself, almost by definition, constitutes an intelligent algorithm! One thing you correctly note: it would be impossible to do the task otherwise! Your point actually completes the argument to the effect that ANY mechanism capable of storing the entire corpus of human utterances must be intelligent SOLELY on account of the intelligence NECESSARILY inherent in any storage and retrieval algorithm capable of handling a database larger in (redundant) capacity than the entire Universe.