Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: ACE (Was Re: Will NeXT survive? Grow with the times?) Message-ID: <&p4H3#09@cs.psu.edu> Date: 20 May 91 04:11:51 GMT References: <11399@uwm.edu> <32580026@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> <4638@batman.moravian.EDU> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Organization: Penn State Computer Science Lines: 24 In-Reply-To: halkoD@batman.moravian.EDU's message of 18 May 91 01: 19:04 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws9.sys.cs.psu.edu In article <4638@batman.moravian.EDU> halkoD@batman.moravian.EDU (David Halko) writes: I have seen this statement over and over again "they're 68000 based, so you won't expect any outstanding improvements in the next few years" This upsets me since the relative performance of the 68040 over the 68030 was over a 100% improvement in speed at the same CPU speed, according to some of the journals I read about 1 year back. Motorola expects another 100% speed increase with the release of the next 68K CPU. This may be another year away, but I think it is worth the wait. A 25MHz 68040 is at least 3 times faster than a 25MHz 68030. At least that is the performance increase I saw in the NeXT when it was upgraded. The 68040 is competive with the SPARC(Sun's SparcStations) at the same clock speed, and I doubt if GCC is the best optimizing compiler in the world. It will be interesting to see what happens when Motorola gets a 40MHz 68040. Personally, I think 68000 based computer companies will move to the 88K. Moto. will double or triple its performance at the same clock speed(same as the 040 I think, and available 2 years ago) long before we see a 68050. -Mike