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From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Clipper 5.01 bugs
Message-ID: <1991May21.204752.27141@pegasus.com>
Date: 21 May 91 20:47:52 GMT
References: <24450@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com> <1991May17.211857.18269@pegasus.com> <24677@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com>
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In article <24677@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com> maurit@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (Mark Aurit) writes:

>   Ah well, it looks like Tom has seen my true colors. We actually write our
>code in dBASE III (not III+, too techie), just run clipper.exe against the
>main module (everthing else is referenced by a "do", none of them functions
>or external thingies), and link using PLINK. Right. A while back, you wrote
>of a Foxpro "attitude". Im sure this is a complete surprise to you, but there
>is a very real attitude associtated with Clipper programmers; your little
>statement above shows you to be a charter Clipperhead.
>
>   I dont know how you define the dBASE language, but just because no
>one else has STATIC variables you find them all seriously flawed. I tend
>to define a language based on its ability to perform a task, not its
>perceived technical excellence. IMHO a good language makes the underlying
>architecture TOTALLY transparent to the developer - obviously Nantucket
>and I differ in this philosophy. 
>
>   Nor do I. I *very* seriously doubt these sales figures. Ive certainly
>read letters of people saying they were leaving the Clipper fold, and have
>difficulty conceiving what someone would buy a product that reference
>journals, magazines, and the internet said was buggy. Ill bet Nantucket
>was merely counting upgrades, not an uncommon practice in the industry.
>
Mark,  I'm at a loss why you think that people compiling dBASE code is
an insult.  The people who tell me that's basically what they do aren't
insulted.

I didn't know that you were qualified to judge what a "good language" is
and before your kick your cubicle wall over, I thought I used the example
of a jet that Northrop produces... if I said "IMHO a good jet should just
let me fly it without looking at the gauges" would you just say "yeah" or
would you question my understanding of jets ?

Finally, the figures on sales are monitored independently, Softsel is a
major distributor if you think they are in on the conspiracy then I cannot
help you.

You are quite simply, wrong.  I also consider people like you as dangerous
since you clearly have made up your mind and don't want facts to get in the
way.  It is of no benefit to anyone and most importantly not to you.

If it's a game you want to play, you win.  You get all the points and you're
king of the hill.  Yes you have the biggest male member.

Oh... in case you're confused, I am not the Devil.  Seeing as you can't
distinguish reality from fiction.

tom