Xref: utzoo comp.mail.misc:5547 comp.mail.uucp:6656 news.admin:14573 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!olivea!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!ogicse!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!percy!m2xenix!randy From: randy@m2xenix.psg.com (Randy Bush) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp,news.admin Subject: Re: BITFTP grief! Message-ID: <1991May22.145920.18933@m2xenix.psg.com> Date: 22 May 91 14:59:20 GMT References: <1991May16.224338.286@crom2.uucp> <1991May18.043931.7094@iguana.uucp> <1991May19.183202.5575@sceard.Sceard.COM> <1991May20.064047.13740@iguana.uucp> <1991May21.031016.9269@sceard.Sceard.COM> Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US Lines: 26 mrm@sceard.Sceard.COM (M.R.Murphy) writes: > Much as I would like to see the facilities offered by MBAS's available, I, > too, agree that the potential for abuse is such that it is not likely to > find a feasable way to keep the concept in general. Too bad. There was a time in the net's life where 'potential for abuse' was not a major problem as it remained but a potential. Folk were almost proud to have dangerous tools lying around unabused (e.g. magic on WAITS). The recent abuse of MBASs makes it clear that the net has 'matured' (i.e. accumulated the immature) to the point where one can no longer leave dangerous tools available, at least not at countertop level. Recent traffic here, where the abusers claim a *right* to their lack of consideration/citizenship, makes it clear that net tool builders now must design against abuse as much as (if not more than) for use. This results in (at least) twice the effort/resource to achieve the same result. Great. In a sense, I guess, this is a sign of 'growth' and 'maturity' of the net. In another, it is sad sign of the modern human condition in self-righteous, 'you owe me', rip-off America (and the fools who follow us). -- randy@psg.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!randy