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From: merce@iguana.uucp (Jim Mercer)
Subject: Re: BITFTP grief!
Message-ID: <1991May20.071452.14045@iguana.uucp>
Organization: Ed (the iguana) Memorial Society
References: <1991May18.043931.7094@iguana.uucp> <01a722w163w@phoenix.com>
Date: Mon, 20 May 91 07:14:52 GMT

In article <01a722w163w@phoenix.com> stanley@phoenix.com (John Stanley) writes:
>merce@iguana.uucp (Jim Mercer) writes:
>
>> too fucking bad, better your money/time/disk than mine.
>
>   If you don't want to be a mail server, then stop doing it. If you don't
>want to carry mail to or from bitftp, don't do it. If you can't handle the
>traffic, then get out of the kitchen. Don't demand that the world stop
>just because you want off.

this sounds all too familiar.

about 2 months ago, some bonehead decided he HAD TO HAVE some VMS utility
package.

so, off he goes and BITFTP's it.

60Meg before uuencoding and mail chunking plus headers.

it starts trickling through the internet at 56K or whatever, hit the University
of Toronto, then slowly weasels it's way onto lsuc.

quite a bit got queued up on lsuc before we established a link to bonehead's
site.  then we had a bi-directional connection going.

worked fine, until bonehead's disk filled up.  then lsuc's disk filled up.
by that time, the rest had ended up in UofT's queues.

we gutted it and cleaned up, it didn't do too much damage.

i figure, this is a bit of a problem, better voice the sysadmin.

sysadmin says sorry, and i don't feel like cutting a large company's connection
for one bonehead user's mistake.  so i get the bonehead's number and give
him a personal talking to.

he had almost the exact same thing to say.

if you can't deal with the heat, get out of the kitchen.

>   If you don't want to be a mail server, then stop doing it.

we want to maintain connectivity, and will continue to do it.

>If you don't want to carry mail to or from bitftp, don't do it.

problem solved.  8^)

please remember, i did not DEMAND that bitftp shut down, all i did was ask
how much of a lobby it would take to shut it down.

turns out it didn't take much.

if a single sysadmin from a backwater town like Toronto can force a life-giving
service of USENET to shut down, you might think that there were other
complaints as well.

when did i achieve net.god status?

>If you can't handle the traffic, then get out of the kitchen.
>Don't demand that the world stop just because you want off.

i did not demand anything of the world.

end users seem to be really pissed off now that their free ride is over.

it's funny, you know, i get thank you letters from sysadmins and hate mail
from end users.

also, your previous posts in comp.mail.uucp are starting to blame the entire
province of Ontario for the timely death of BITFTP.

why do you insist on escalating the blame for this from one individual who
posted an article explaining his grief and asking for some helpful hints,
to blaming an entire region?

the uucp community of Ontario is about to suffer a very large hit on their
connectivity.

this will mean that they will come to depend on sites like lsuc, who will
store and forward their messages.

lsuc has been a part of the USENET community for some 8 years (more? i've only
been here for 2 years).

they are well respected in the Toronto uucp community.

i hope your connections are well aware of your total lack of respect for their
resources.

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