Xref: utzoo sci.crypt:4794 gnu.misc.discuss:3180 comp.org.eff.talk:2418 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!uunet!bywater!arnor!metzger From: metzger@watson.ibm.com (Perry E. Metzger) Newsgroups: sci.crypt,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: rpem: RSA patent questions Keywords: RSA patent rpem Message-ID: <1991May20.183038.9967@watson.ibm.com> Date: 20 May 91 18:30:38 GMT Article-I.D.: watson.1991May20.183038.9967 References: <1991May16.201709.3086@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Sender: news@watson.ibm.com (NNTP News Poster) Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center Lines: 61 Nntp-Posting-Host: halley The following article will be considered contraversial. It contains only my own opinions, and the opinions should not be construed as being those of IBM, or of the IBM T.J. Watson Research Center. In article <1991May16.201709.3086@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> riordanmr@clvax1.cl.msu.edu (Mark Riordan) writes: >As you can see from the message below, RSA is unhappy with my releasing >a public key encryption program. > >I claim that the algorithm here does not closely resemble RSA and >therefore should not infringe upon the patent(s). They claim otherwise. > >I seek advice, or pointers to advice, in this real-life situation. [Elided: a letter From jim@RSA.COM (Jim Bidzos), which describes the fascist hammerlock on public key encryption that "Public Key Partners" has established., including..] > WE HEREBY PLACE YOU AND ALL USERS OF YOUR IMPLEMENTATION OF >PUBLIC KEY, ON NOTICE THAT THEY ARE INFRINGING ON THESE PATENTS AND WE >RESERVE ALL OF OUR RIGHTS AND REMEDIES AT LAW. Warning: I'm not a lawyer, but... You have done nothing by simply implementing the algorithm. ONLY USE OF, OR SALE OF, A PATENTED INVENTION IS ACTIONABLE. Besides, RSA and "Public Key Partners" have effectively destroyed the ability of the American public from benefiting from public key encryption. They are a revolting group, and its time that we forced them in to court. I say that we form the Mark Riordan legal defense fund, and force RSA in to court. If the patent stands, well, we aren't in any worse a situation, and it is likely that only the most miniscule of damages can be claimed against Mark Riordan as at worst, as I see it (I am not a lawyer!), he could be held liable for his personal use of the algorithm, but not for the creation and distribution of code which could, when compiled, be used to execute the algorithm. NOTE THAT THE RSA PATENT COVERS ONLY A COMPLETE DEVICE THAT EXECUTES RSA, AND NOT MERELY AN UNCOMPILED PROGRAM WITHOUT A DEVICE TO EXECUTE IT. Assuming that a good lawyer agrees that Mark would be, at worst, liable for the comparitively small license fees that RSA and PKP wish to extort from him, it would be well worth the while of the community to support him through a court case which could potentially break the patents and the resulting hammerlock of a company that exists only to extort license fees from people for manipulating large numbers in the privacy of their own home computers. I know that this statement is contraversial, but I am making it anyway. IBM is anal retentive, so let me state for the record this is MY opinion, which has nothing to do with IBM or IBM's opinions: Software and Algorithm patents are immoral and unnatural. RSA, and "Public Key Partners", are parasites who extort money from people and impede technological progress. They do nothing for a living but collect license fees from patents that should not have been granted in the first place. It is as unnatural to permit the patenting of RSA is it would be to permit the patenting of Euclids GCD algorithm. Its time that RSA was brought into court and the patent was broken. Perry Metzger